In most places this is sufficient but if you are really going off the beaten track, consider a bigger bottle. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! One way to check this is to put the mixer tube over the jet elbow and watch the fuel stream on an unlit stove. Over the course of two years, we have had the following issues: If you are having trouble with your Whisperlite stove and not sure what to try next, try asking yourself these questions, provided by an expert at MSR. I was thinking only about PET water bottle which is too soft. Paranoid cyclists could also add an additional fuel line as in theory a lot of cleaning can wear out the line but we haven’t needed to replace ours yet. The Whisperlight International ONLY burns liquid gas. Friedel, I thought the same when I saw this but any alcohol works. On the note of cooking porridge, I use the MSR Skilliet Pan. If you are going to be camping in extreme cold conditions, do not make excuses for anything less than the best. The expedition repair kit does have some useful tools in it (we actually used the key quite a bit for little tightening jobs), and the replacement shaker needle. Subscribe here. Very occasionally our stove develops a more serious problem when one of the parts wears out. Hi Bart, Is there anything blocking the mixer tube holes? Even in developing countries they have a large supply. Do you get any fuel flow through the jet when not burning it? If you are having problems with fuel flow: Conclusions I guess I just don't know what the technical difference is between the two. Download the Backpacking Light Handbook to help you make intelligent decisions about gear, skills, ultralight philosophy, and reducing your pack weight. Carry a tiny bottle of alcohol. We are going camping this weekend. Isobutane will not burn below 11 degrees Fahrenheit (-11C) as this is its vaporizing point. With a large amount of use, and depending on how dirty your fuel is, the stove will need to be cleaned. I find once you get the blue flame going then there is no petrol taste in the food you cook. However, the fuel filter is exposed when not in use and can easily be damaged or clogged. Your heat source is a life source in the backcountry. It does not take too much to get used to using it and also heats up pretty quick based on what you are cooking in. Even though we have almost always run our stove on inexpensive petrol (instead of the cleaner but pricier white gas), we barely needed to clean it in places like Europe where the quality of unleaded fuel is high. It comes with the included attachments and canister stand to make this easy. Is the pickup tube in the fuel bottle clogged with something? As a matter of fact there is a retailer of msr products here in malaysia. Which Bike for Which Age? Be sure to replace it with the correct size or you might end up ruining the plastic pump housing when putting it back together. Both Whisperlite International and Universal are better than the Classic and the Universal is even better than the International. So we don’t need a spare MSR bottle. You can release more fuel a few seconds later and as the burner gets hotter the bright orange flames will settle down to a clean blue flame. Only gas should flow (if there is any liquid entering the cup, then be sure to use more alcohol next time) – light with a match or lighter. The shaker jet can be retrofitted into the older stoves (it's just a needle in the jet). The current Int has a cleaning slug inside it – the 'shaker-jet' part. Well sorry for complaining but I just had to . The MSR WhisperLite is the most reliable stove you could purchase. It can be a bit tedious at times, but I would rather know my stove will burn than worry about the ambient temperature when it comes time to cook food or boil water. We are eating everything in site at the moment so our cooking gear is essential to us and we have not got this right yet. BACKPACKING LIGHT® and the FEATHER/MOUNTAIN icon are registered trademarks granted for exclusive use to Beartooth Media Group, Inc. (besides from the main MSR gasoline bottle) We have used our stove many times in sub-zero temperatures and as high as 3,600 meters above sea level. On our world trip, we didn’t want to add yet another bottle to our bags of stuff (and it’s hard to find small bottles of priming alcohol – you probably only need to carry about 500ml for quite a lot of cooking), but for shorter trips this is an ideal technique. MSR Whisperlite Internationale Review. How does that work? It’s a good idea to hold the fuel pump in a ziplock bag to separate it from the stove and keep the filter from getting dirty. On the topic of burning unleaded gasoline. I don’t know about India in particular, but I can’t see why it would be a problem. And yes, the MSR does get very sooty on the outside. They can be taken apart and cleaned. It comes with the … The shaker jet is a nice feature but not necessary. Thank you so much guys I’ll try that out: as I am planning a trip through Eastern Asia I doubt I ll be able to find white Gas so I m going to try out how it works with Unleaded Petrol and Diesel. For the stove to work you put a small amount of fuel ( alcohol or petrol ) into the cup/wick and light it, about a teaspoonful. “I love the smell of gasoline in the morning”. Regular Maintenance & Spare Parts At the bottom of the stove there is a small cup like attachment with a wick in it. With the total packed weight of 15 ounces, you won’t even notice you’re carrying a stove on your back. We carry a bottle that holds 20 fluid ounces or 590ml of fuel. This generally involves removing the fuel line from the stove and using the cable inside the line to clear out any debris. I don't think you could stick this inside a Whisperlite. We couldn’t get good petrol at all in some parts of Central Asia, but the stove still managed fine. It comes with two foil heat reflectors that amazingly have not yet been worn out despite quite a bit of folding and unfolding. Note that you need to keep the pressure down to nothing as you climb higher. Download this free 86-page eBook, fully updated in 2015. We’ve rarely needed to carry spare gasoline – only occasionally in places like Kyrgyzstan. Don’t disassemble your stove for the first time when you are hungry. The heat generated by the stove is substantial and even in cold weather or at altitude you’ll have no problem boiling water quickly. That is, until we tried the MSR Whisperlite Universal, which can do all that the International version can do, but can also use canister fuel. Hey everyone. Do you need a new jet from wear (if the stove has been heavily used or aggressively cleaned)? Thank you so much everybody: tonight, following your superb advices, I managed to boil water on my whisperlite without having soot at all! It’s a good idea to hold the fuel pump in a ziplock bag to separate it from the stove and keep the filter from getting dirty. Only problem was fuel tube clogging. Did you thoroughly clean the cable? All in all, although we have had to service the stove a few times to keep it running properly, we’re still very happy with it and we can’t praise the help of the kind people at MSR enough. I discovered that if I pulled the cable 1" out of fuel tube (can be done with pliars or with MSR tool supplied with stove – insert cable through small hole in tool, rotate tool to lock onto cable) and run cable in and out of tube to ream it after every few uses and then flush witha little fuel,the tube stays clean enough to pass fuel. The easiest way to use alchohol as the primer. (The burner tray also has a larger hole drilled in it to accept the larger pre-heat tube on the international, but a little work with a round file will work too. Maybe I can video our porridge technique. Bottom Line: If you have access to white gas / coleman fuel, then I don't see any advantage to the international over the standard wisperlite. Anyway – alcohol priming dramatically (or completely) avoids the soot. Every long bicycle trip needs a good campstove and for our journey we bought the MSR Whisperlite International ($99.95 from REI). @justaddfuel. Also petrol although highly flammable on the plains, seems to behave well at higher altitudes. I’ve replaced the o-rings once in all that time. The only difference between these two is that the WhisperLite Universal has a changeable adapter that allows it to connect to isobutane/propane fuel canisters. If it’s hitting the wall of the mixer tube there’s a problem. If you only burn white gas / coleman fuel, it's not a big difference. The International and the Universal are essentially the same stove. The fuel pump is extremely well built and easy to maintain. I’ve been so impressed by the WhisperLite stoves that it is hard to find anything to complain about. Viewing 5 posts - 1 through 5 (of 5 total), Forums are supported by our merchant partners (. Take a close-up photo of the valve part of the stove and post it on the spiritburner.com forums. do you have any eperiences with using it on high altitudes like on the pamir highway? However, the fuel filter is exposed when not in use and can easily be damaged or clogged. The Whisperlite is fine – just a redesign of the Int. This was largely sufficient but for trips of more than six months where replacement parts may be hard to source, we would also suggest adding: These parts are tiny, weigh almost nothing and aren’t very expensive. Also there is a fiberglass wick for preheating with kerosene. Have you noticed any negatives burning gasoline (smell or taste) other than having to clean the stove more frequently? Other stoves that simmer well include MSR’s WhisperLite Universal and Pocket Rocket 2, and the Jetboil MiniMo. Try pulling out the control valve in the pump and making sure that it is clear of debris that might be restricting the flow of fuel to the stove. Release a little fuel into a priming cup and light the fuel so the unit heats up to temperature. Are the flat and wavey rings that make the burner ports in good shape or are they flattened and very, very dark (heat affected)? Maybe there is no o-ring inside of the valve? Take a maintenance kit with you – the expedition kit is good – merely for the peace of mind you will achieve knowing you will be able to service the stove if required. You can get your MSR WhisperLite right here: Would love your thoughts, please comment. http://travellingtwo.com/5048, We are only a couple of weeks into our trip and strugling with our combination of the whisperlite stove and one of MSRs titanium pans.
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