(She also has outstanding stealth, but that plays into survivability.) Shes good at killing cruisers at longer ranges than hurting bb's at same ranges. Play her like monarch, a flanker and a opportunist. Her AA is, yup, good enough. I see no to add lion because monarch is t7 and you could add conquer (which is bacicly the same) at legendary tier, It'd be cool, but I think you see minotaur way before conqueror. I use the 419s on my Lion. Then again, the RN CAs exist. HE performance is also very similar, so if anything you can save exp on getting top guns. Oh god please no Conqueror. I will try the passive approach and crossfire. Super heal is double edged as the cool down is much longer. Anything that doesn't kill you is easy to shrug off. Her maneuverability isn't great, but it's good enough. Not sure how many other ships there are that can take as much damage so quickly and yet be mostly unable to return said damage at anything near the same rate. I'm starting to think that they had to compensate for the fact that RN BB designs were simply inferior and so gave it the three crutches of Heal, Concealment and HE. HMS Lion. I know how you feel. And pretty much everything that hits me, does some damage. Just yesterday I used up 200k fxp to skip it. By But neither of them is a bad choice for someone more comfortable with a more traditional BB since KGV and Gneis/Scharn are so quirky (if you try to play them like a traditional BB you're not going to do well.). It's still a stock ship as I researched it today so no 419mm guns yet. Oh I know about that. It struggles to hurt an angled BB at any range. https://replayswows.com/ would be one way. HE does barely 2200 damage. A Lion has some crap shell output and apart from not being very accurate gives the target a good bit of time to react to being shot at. The Monarch got dropped like a dead butterfly although I expect she may get buffed given the nearly unanimous shade thrown her way on the forum. The thing is given significant handicap advantages because it is unable to compete without them. I once played a match on Ocean in the lion with 3 enemy ships chasing after me and didn't die. hope not tbh, why have 3 variations of KGV, also where would you put it? Well they (british bb he shells) hit alot harder than an IJN cruiser's for one. I may not have enough games but I have played enough that I know what to do. She is the second premium ship available that is purchased using Free XP instead of (the first being Missouri). Seems like Lion is that "light at the end of the tunnel" that is Monarch. With AP loaded, at least I am consistently touching the 100k damage number, not to mention taking chunks out of cruisers. Her size means that she will take quite a few hits in a gunfight. You can't get stuck in too deep. Is she coming to the game I saw her on google apparently she is already on PC hope she comes soon as I’m a bit biased to RN ships being a Brit myself. It doesn't. I'm a bit confused on the "Pro: Gunnery is laser accurate" I have yet to experience what I would consider "laser accurate" I must be doing something wrong. She's very squishy and doesn't have a good rate of fire so ironically shes not good for early-mid game aggression although don't miss out chances to get into places that allow you to smack people about as you play lion more you will see how quesitonable her accuracy is even at close range. Also, while I did consult numbers and stats, my reviews are primarily based on the feel of the ship and my performance in her. The shells are slow and the dispersion seems to be ll over the place. The #2 turret seems especially prone to incapacitation. hide. Just like the Lion, except 12 guns and you can keep them all in action while still angling effectively. It's very difficult to do so. Without the wildly exaggerated concealment and [edited] heal, I believe wholeheartedly this thing would be an unplayable turd. People jump to the conclusion this means it is fantastically OP, but that just isn't the case. As such, it is important to position properly and use concealment when faced with overwhelming odds. best. An FdG has the same accuracy, but reloads way faster and has faster shells. I didn't try the 419s as I wanted my Conqueror quicker and didn't want to spend the xp (I have Missouri already, so I wasn't keeping another t9 BB) but the 406mm guns were fine. The combination of the 406mm main battery, more hp, and the superheal make her far more survivable than Momarch and I was able to consistently deal more damage, even with her stock 406mm guns. One should note the short fuses on the AP shells. I was scoring easy 100k damage in Monarch and KGV. Even Bismarck's main HE rounds set more fire and do more damage than this. Eventually they get bored, push in to try and get an angle on me with all their guns, giving too much angle themselves and then boom, AP. I think he meant the WWI battlecruiser HMS Lion, Admiral Beatty's flagship. Even when not stock she feels cumbersome and as soon as you show any side, say to use the rear gun, blap. Besides, AP pen difference between 406 and 419 isn't big, and stock 406 overtake Iowa/Montana in terms of penetration past 11km. I thought about Vanguard, but I there are already enough premiums in my account. poeticmotion, October 4, 2017 in British Battleships. Is she coming to the game I saw her on google apparently she is already on PC hope she comes soon as I’m a bit biased to RN ships being a Brit myself. The Des Moine I wrote about was maybe 3 km apart with his bow in my direction. Just skip past the Lion ASAP, it's a nothing ship with no purpose in the game. 0 comments. By share. Nelson features a main battery of 16-inch guns in a 3x3 configuration with all three turrets forward of the superstructure. Note: I am an average to (maybe) a bit above average player who plays mostly solo, so this is from that perspective. Every so often, you get a chance to wreck a CA for a dev strike when you have AP loaded at the right time and get a broadside, or more commonly you'll be able to delete a DD with a full salvo of HE, but for the most part Lion nibbles at her prey. Torpedo protection is equally abysmal, if not worse. HMS Nelson is a Tier VII premium British battleship. While the armour isnt necessary that good compared to its compatriots, its still BB armour. Lion is really not that impressive to me; so far I did better in FDG and Izumo. The armor is...more often than not just enough to pi** an incoming shell off. You can absolutely carry a game at the end; once the teams are thinned out, if you're in range of a comeback, you can often make a difference. Very difficult to dodge torps due to size and turning radius, and takes a lot of damage from torp hits. Whereas German BBs can be effective anti-DD platforms simply by wading in with secondaries, a Lion can wreck a DD easily anywhere within 10-12 km with a single salvo of her HE. You just listed every issue that I have. What is the deal with this ship? Not going to call them "bad" but they for me where not enjoyable to play. You don't need to stay back at the edge of your range lolsniping, but don't be tempted to close in, especially early game, unless your team is playing aggressive, and even then, you should try to be on the second line as these function best as support BBs early to mid-game; playing them as really big cruisers is the way to go. This is of course a limited sample size, and is affected by my playstyle (which is generally fairly aggressive leading to occasional overreaches and a low survival rate.) This review further improves my faith in the Lion. When I first got it I found it a real pain, hard to do any damage and the thing just got focused down way to easily. To all fellow WoWS captains, I am about to be done grinding XP on my HMS Monarch and finally unlock the HMS Lion, the Tier IX British battleship. You need to have an exit plan to get out of sight and heal. I have found that I don't even engage Lions or Conquerors unless I dont have a better target, I have a good enough shot to likely knock them out, or I have several teammates also focusing fire on them, because that superheal means I'm wasting my DPS if I can't deliver a knockout blow. Maybe Vanguard if on sale. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It's more of a nibbler, as was said. I rather go play Monarch or Thunderer and ignore the rest of the high tier Brits. It's definitely not the most interesting of play styles, but it can be ok and a challenge to keep it alive long enough for the HE to start counting or for the enemy to give up trying to kill you and turn to show their broadsides. Discussion . Silent_Hunter94, August 17 in General Discussion. She hits hard. The 419s have a tad more damage and a 2% increase in fire chance over the 406s. The superheal is nice but not when every enemy ship focuses me down as soon as I get visible and I take chunks of damage with every hit. The superheal can give you a massive chunk of HP back. A Lion has some crap shell output and apart from not being very accurate gives the target a good bit of time to react to being shot at. For my reviews of the Monarch, KGV, and Queen Elizabeth, links are below. FIred all three turrets with AP loaded at him, I think maybe 4 shells hit the ship rest fell either side of it. The ship is just trash as the guns are so wonky you will miss a broadside Worcester at 6km with the shells going high and low, left and right with 0 hits... Only good RN BBs are the premium ones as they actually are accurate and able to hit stuff... Spec for stealth, then play it as a large cruiser with bigger armour, health and super heal. The Monarch was awesome for me I loved her ! Lion is not a ship that's going to earn you a lot of dev strikes. Her guns catch up to her peers in size (406mm compared to the undergunned Monarch's anemic 381mm weapons) and feel very accurate. Monarch was better in that regard. In KGV it was HE all the way, Monarch was a mix of shell types. Reversing when the enemy pushes and keeping them alight seems to work. So your damage rolls will often be low for each salvo, but when your opponent pops damage control, you can light them up again and watch their hp keep dropping. I'm sorry that I cannot give you any advice other than skipping it. The reload time, range, and turret rotation is identical to the 406s. Every so often, you get a chance to wreck a CA for a dev strike when you have AP loaded at the right time and get a broadside, or more commonly you'll be able to delete a DD with a full salvo of HE, but for the most part Lion nibbles at her prey. Lion is where I quit the line, because it's just frustrating. And because of the armor the heal suddenly becomes worse than the one monarch uses because if you get citadeled (which you will) it can't heal anything and you're suddenly left with a heal that reloads almost twice as slow. Final verdict: Outstanding BB. Already happened with me. HMS Lion. HE barely set a fire, or RNG is just too crazy.
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